Hey comrades,
I’d love to hear what WM/DE y’all run. Currently I run dwm and I’m pleased with my patches to it. I’ve run i3 in the past although I found it’s not my thing.
Also the biggest question for the twm users, do you use gaps or not?
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bspwm \o/
But when I’ve used a full DE I always go with XFCE
Pop! OS, with extensions essential for my workflow.
I use GNOME with a couple of extensions. I tried a few standalone window managers but I gave up very quickly, I didn’t enjoy the experience of configuring them exactly to my taste.
And yes, I use gaps.
KDE is fine. Maybe it’s a controversial opinion, but I feel like the OS and WM/DE I use have almost no effect on the way I use my computer. I use different things for different tasks and just make them work, I guess. I’ve used GNOME, KDE, KFCE, … probably everything already listed. I’ll admit that using Windows 11 would upset me, or that I prefer DWM to GNOME, but I enjoy all of it. Though, honestly, I expected to be the only one using DWM here for some reason lol, and, yeah, I use gaps.
To me, a good interface is one which gets out of the way, and quite honestly most of the DEs are mature enough to do that these days. Doesn’t matter which one, but I end up getting used to them quick enough for it to be a bother. Even W11 doesn’t bother me.
It definitely upset me haha
there are more of us than we think!
If I want a DE I flip a coin between MATE/XFCE.
For a simple WM, I use https://man.openbsd.org/cwm.1 CWM, which was originally developed on OpenBSD, but is available on linux and every BSD. It’s great and minimal. I always plug it because it really gets out of your way, and it’s super easy to config.
Another CWM link:
https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20090502141551
If you use twm, have you tried CTWM?
I meant twm as in tiling window manager, I haven’t heard of the twm window manager itself. I’ll definitely check out ctwm, thanks!
Oh I thought you meant twm, which is one of the oldest WM’s in linux/unix. CTWM is a modern version of it. They’re not tiling at all though.
For me, when I used to use tiling a lot I like Xmonad the most.
I would really consider giving CWM a shot :)
I’ve tried CWM when I was on OpenBSD for a while, although I didn’t fancy the config that much. I’ll check it out again the future though
oh ok. I just like it and always plug it when a discussion comes up.
I used tiling for a while but I can’t do it anymore. But I still need something minimal, and it does a great job of that. I just like the default keybindings in CWM, especially for moving and resizing windows, and I like the idea of groups instead of virtual desktops. And like a lot of openbsd software, configuring is actually pretty simple, and human readable. Older WM’s like twm/fvwm have awful configs, and xmonad uses haskell which is over my head, dwm you have to know c and then recompile…
I barely know C whatsoever, once you understand the dwm’s config syntax you’re good to go. Patching is done automatically using the
patchutility and etc. You quite never have to interact with anything else aside from config.hcool, nice to hear it’s easy
I’ll make a guide when I can about configuring dwm, I’ll let you know by pinging you.
I use vanilla GNOME on my home rig and I love it so far. Might switch to a tiling WM at some point but I’d need to actually have time to change it over, configure stuff, and learn the new keybindings
I’m running i3. It has been with me ever since my first linux install and I feel like it does everything I want from it. I tried sway but it wasn’t for me since AFAIK it still does not support drop shadows which you can get with a compositor on i3.
I use
XFCEhowever, I do think thatGnomeas of late seems like an actually usable experience for my kind of workflow. I have usedi3in the past, but I’ve found it doesn’t pick up all the applications on my system. For example,aisleriot, a solitaire application I use doesn’t show under the default application launcher ofi3.You could try rofi as a program launcher
Thank you! I’ll be sure to give it a try.
xfce ftw
dwmdid you ever find the “suckless” community uh, annoying?
I found it many years ago because I find software minimalism interesting, but I haven’t engaged with the community (I’d assume they’re pretty elitist in general). Apparently their meet-ups have involved some….….… suspicious activities
their own take software minimalism is fine. The result of that is online people describe anything outside of the ST terminal and dwm as “pUrE BlOAt” when really other tools get the job done just fine.
There was a controversy a few years ago about their meet ups being right wing/borderline nazi. Apparently they would go on “torch rallies through the woods” and meet up in bavarian castles. I read one comment saying that the torches through the woods was actually some old german/bavarian thing, not nazi, and no different than a nature walk, but I have no idea.
Oh and they would troll systemd mailing lists, and their mail host was named “Wolfsschanze” which was the name hitler gave to his eastern front headquarters…
I find the idea of modular software made of many small pieces very compelling, but like anything else, being dogmatic is unproductive at best. Minimalism is just not a feasible approach in all situations
Yeah, the stuff in the final two paragraphs is what I was thinking of
agreed; it’s nice, but not the end all be all
They’re definitely not friendly to beginners, although you don’t really need the community unless you want to get involved with maintaining patches or programs or etc.
I liked some of their software, it just seemed it brought about this insane obsession with “bloat” in online communities. It’s just an annoying byproduct of something that’s otherwise pretty neat on its own.
That and configuring things and then recompiling them completely seems totally unnecessary, but that’s just me.
sway with swaysome for workspace management. I have a Kepler based NVidia card which works decently with nouveau.
I’ve got sway to work with nouveau, although I’m not that fond of the i3-styled config and etc. I’d have to get alternatives to all my compiled programs which is a bit of a bother
Here is a list of some known Wayland compositors. Maybe you can find one that works for you, comrade. I know dwl from that list, which is dwm for Wayland. Though last time I tried it it didn’t come with a top status bar and the devs expected you to install your own. Not sure if that changed in meantime.
Thanks, comrade! My biggest pet peeve about Wayland is the fact that most of my custom tailored programs (especially st, my terminal) don’t work over there, or if they do I must use XWayland, which is eh. Xorg is not that great for security, but I kinda prefer prioritizing my usage flow of the computer, although I’ll definitely move to Wayland if there are viable alternatives soon
Mate Desktop I like it’s clean UI without fancy effects, and the resulting low memory footprint and responsiveness, while on the same time a little bit easier to configure than e.g. lxde
And kiss launcher on my mobile device. I like the simple and clean access to apps and all other stuff e.g. contacts via a single search bar
labwc on the computer. it’s basically openbox for wayland.
lineage without gapps on the phone.
Pop OS Cosmic. I’m too baby to jump into a real tiler. Right now it’s based on Gnome but they are currently doing a full rewrite from scratch.